User talk:Damaskin - Revision history

Damaskin at 10:38, 26 November 2019

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	Please respond here: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Discussions/Editor_Discussions#Mass_deletion_of_hundreds_of_pages		Please respond here: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Discussions/Editor_Discussions#Mass_deletion_of_hundreds_of_pages
	--[[User:Yaakovaryeh\|Yaakovaryeh]] ([[User talk:Yaakovaryeh\|talk]]) 01:24, 26 October 2019 (UTC)		--[[User:Yaakovaryeh\|Yaakovaryeh]] ([[User talk:Yaakovaryeh\|talk]]) 01:24, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

			I'm very glad you wrote! I answered there.
			Damaskin

Yaakovaryeh at 01:24, 26 October 2019

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	:The experimental versions of the 4 articles (72 Virgins, Muhammad ibn Abdullah, Aisha's Age of Consumation and Embryology in the Quran) were actually written a few months ago and copy-pasted in yesterday. Mostly the changes worked well. Since then we have further refined the new policies. Later I will add back again some removed argument sections and evidence in Age of Aisha and Embryology, but in the new concise, objective style. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 21:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)		:The experimental versions of the 4 articles (72 Virgins, Muhammad ibn Abdullah, Aisha's Age of Consumation and Embryology in the Quran) were actually written a few months ago and copy-pasted in yesterday. Mostly the changes worked well. Since then we have further refined the new policies. Later I will add back again some removed argument sections and evidence in Age of Aisha and Embryology, but in the new concise, objective style. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 21:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

			==Mass deletion of hundreds of pages last December==
			Please respond here: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Discussions/Editor_Discussions#Mass_deletion_of_hundreds_of_pages
			--[[User:Yaakovaryeh\|Yaakovaryeh]] ([[User talk:Yaakovaryeh\|talk]]) 01:24, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Lightyears at 21:33, 29 December 2018

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	:I just wanted to reassure you that we do not want to lose good arguments and information. I care a lot about this too, and so do ExMNA (we have had recent discussions about this). The new policy will be about re-phrasing good arguments that are supported by cited evidence into a more objective and concise style, adding balance where needed, and fixing biased personal judgements and assumptions. We will be removing conclusions and just presenting the observations and evidence so that readers see that the articles are more objective. Then they can come to their own conclusions about each topic. A lot of quotes will be moved to footnotes to make long articles more streamlined in order to better help readers who want an overview as well as those looking for detailed information on the arguments.		:I just wanted to reassure you that we do not want to lose good arguments and information. I care a lot about this too, and so do ExMNA (we have had recent discussions about this). The new policy will be about re-phrasing good arguments that are supported by cited evidence into a more objective and concise style, adding balance where needed, and fixing biased personal judgements and assumptions. We will be removing conclusions and just presenting the observations and evidence so that readers see that the articles are more objective. Then they can come to their own conclusions about each topic. A lot of quotes will be moved to footnotes to make long articles more streamlined in order to better help readers who want an overview as well as those looking for detailed information on the arguments.

	The experimental versions of the 4 articles (72 Virgins, Muhammad ibn Abdullah, Aisha's Age of Consumation and Embryology in the Quran) were actually written a few months ago and copy-pasted in yesterday. Mostly the changes worked well. Since then we have further refined the new policies. Later I will add back again some removed argument sections and evidence in Age of Aisha and Embryology, but in the new concise, objective style. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 21:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)		:The experimental versions of the 4 articles (72 Virgins, Muhammad ibn Abdullah, Aisha's Age of Consumation and Embryology in the Quran) were actually written a few months ago and copy-pasted in yesterday. Mostly the changes worked well. Since then we have further refined the new policies. Later I will add back again some removed argument sections and evidence in Age of Aisha and Embryology, but in the new concise, objective style. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 21:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

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			:I just wanted to reassure you that we do not want to lose good arguments and information. I care a lot about this too, and so do ExMNA (we have had recent discussions about this). The new policy will be about re-phrasing good arguments that are supported by cited evidence into a more objective and concise style, adding balance where needed, and fixing biased personal judgements and assumptions. We will be removing conclusions and just presenting the observations and evidence so that readers see that the articles are more objective. Then they can come to their own conclusions about each topic. A lot of quotes will be moved to footnotes to make long articles more streamlined in order to better help readers who want an overview as well as those looking for detailed information on the arguments.

			The experimental versions of the 4 articles (72 Virgins, Muhammad ibn Abdullah, Aisha's Age of Consumation and Embryology in the Quran) were actually written a few months ago and copy-pasted in yesterday. Mostly the changes worked well. Since then we have further refined the new policies. Later I will add back again some removed argument sections and evidence in Age of Aisha and Embryology, but in the new concise, objective style. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 21:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Damaskin: /* Reverted edits */

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	I saw that you changed the wine article back to the old version that we had prior to my review and re-write. I did this re-write following feedback from Ex-Muslims and Muslims. There was agreement that the old article needed changing due to a host of problems, so I have reverted your changes to that. It's possible that this one will see further work during the revamp project. Thanks for your other work and patience while we commence the initial stages of the project. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 11:09, 29 December 2018 (UTC)		I saw that you changed the wine article back to the old version that we had prior to my review and re-write. I did this re-write following feedback from Ex-Muslims and Muslims. There was agreement that the old article needed changing due to a host of problems, so I have reverted your changes to that. It's possible that this one will see further work during the revamp project. Thanks for your other work and patience while we commence the initial stages of the project. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 11:09, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

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			Hi AbdulHurayrah,
			First I apologize for the inconvenience I have created, but I thought the changes for vandalism. The truth is that both articles(the wine article) have their weaknesses, but yours resemble a Pro-Islamic because I did not see used weak hadiths as you mentioned. Usually, Muslims justify that some hadith is weak when it is not profitable. I do not know how much you know Islamic scriptures, but I have no long been consulted with Muslims on controversial issues.

			Regarding the four articles, they are 5 that I saw were deleted and I was shocked. Some of them were emblematic and very strong in their argumentation. I still can not understand what the new site policy is, but I will look forward to finding out. Please do not be angry with my reaction, but I love the site and want to see it still uncompromising.

			My English is not good at regrouping or writing articles on the English site. For translations from English to Bulgarian, I have used paid professional translators. So I apologize for writing to you bad English now.

			I will be happy to communicate more in the future to work for the good of the site and the truth.

			Best regards,
			Damaskin

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	Hi, just letting you know what's going on with the site at the moment and why your edits yesterday were reverted. ExMNA will likely get in touch with you at some point, but to summarise, they are undertaking a major project to revamp Wikiislam with a wide range of improvements. This will include a lot of new content and a more scholarly and objective approach in the existing articles. They are developing new guidelines for this purpose, and as a result some pages have been batch-deleted (including the Farside pages) which were not appropriate for the new approach.		Hi, just letting you know what's going on with the site at the moment and why your edits yesterday were reverted. ExMNA will likely get in touch with you at some point, but to summarise, they are undertaking a major project to revamp Wikiislam with a wide range of improvements. This will include a lot of new content and a more scholarly and objective approach in the existing articles. They are developing new guidelines for this purpose, and as a result some pages have been batch-deleted (including the Farside pages) which were not appropriate for the new approach.

	AbdulHurayrah is heavily involved with this project, and the edits you saw were the removal of links on hub pages to articles that have already been removed. The 4 articles that had sudden major changes were their initial experiments to help formulate the new guidelines. ~~Those~~ articles will be further improved (I gave them feedback). I didn't undo your rollback of the embryology article because I know that ~~ExMNA's changes to this one in particular had~~ a lot of problems (I am very familiar with this article because I completely re-wrote it a couple of years ago). I ~~won~~'t put their changes back ~~until~~ I am ready to ~~improve it and~~ fix the problems.		AbdulHurayrah is heavily involved with this project, and the edits you saw were the removal of links on hub pages to articles that have already been removed. The 4 articles that had sudden major changes were their initial experiments to help formulate the new guidelines. Some of those articles will be further improved (I gave them feedback). I didn't undo your rollback of the embryology article because I know that the experiment introduced quite a lot of problems (I am very familiar with this article because I completely re-wrote it a couple of years ago). I'll put their changes back when I am ready to fix the problems.

	I saw that you changed the wine article back to the old version that we had prior to my review and re-write. I did this re-write following feedback from Ex-Muslims and Muslims. There was agreement that the old article needed changing due to a host of problems, so I have reverted your changes to that. It's possible that this one will see further work during the revamp project. Thanks for your other work and patience while we commence the initial stages of the project.[[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 11:09, 29 December 2018 (UTC)		I saw that you changed the wine article back to the old version that we had prior to my review and re-write. I did this re-write following feedback from Ex-Muslims and Muslims. There was agreement that the old article needed changing due to a host of problems, so I have reverted your changes to that. It's possible that this one will see further work during the revamp project. Thanks for your other work and patience while we commence the initial stages of the project. [[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 11:09, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

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	:No problem.		:No problem.
	:The reason why I did this [http://bg.wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=72_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8&curid=62&diff=496&oldid=495] kind of linking is that once we changed our domain and links like that stopped working. If we keep it internal, the links will always work. Its up to you though. For the BG site you can revert back to the external links if you like. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 04:33, 1 July 2015 (PDT)		:The reason why I did this [http://bg.wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=72_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8&curid=62&diff=496&oldid=495] kind of linking is that once we changed our domain and links like that stopped working. If we keep it internal, the links will always work. Its up to you though. For the BG site you can revert back to the external links if you like. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 04:33, 1 July 2015 (PDT)

			== Reverted edits ==

			Hi, just letting you know what's going on with the site at the moment and why your edits yesterday were reverted. ExMNA will likely get in touch with you at some point, but to summarise, they are undertaking a major project to revamp Wikiislam with a wide range of improvements. This will include a lot of new content and a more scholarly and objective approach in the existing articles. They are developing new guidelines for this purpose, and as a result some pages have been batch-deleted (including the Farside pages) which were not appropriate for the new approach.

			AbdulHurayrah is heavily involved with this project, and the edits you saw were the removal of links on hub pages to articles that have already been removed. The 4 articles that had sudden major changes were their initial experiments to help formulate the new guidelines. Those articles will be further improved (I gave them feedback). I didn't undo your rollback of the embryology article because I know that ExMNA's changes to this one in particular had a lot of problems (I am very familiar with this article because I completely re-wrote it a couple of years ago). I won't put their changes back until I am ready to improve it and fix the problems.

			I saw that you changed the wine article back to the old version that we had prior to my review and re-write. I did this re-write following feedback from Ex-Muslims and Muslims. There was agreement that the old article needed changing due to a host of problems, so I have reverted your changes to that. It's possible that this one will see further work during the revamp project. Thanks for your other work and patience while we commence the initial stages of the project.[[User:Lightyears\|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears\|talk]]) 11:09, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Axius: /* Setup of Bulgarian WikiIslam */

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	I left it for those days because I have no time, but thanks anyway. - Damaskin		I left it for those days because I have no time, but thanks anyway. - Damaskin
			:No problem.
			:The reason why I did this [http://bg.wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=72_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8&curid=62&diff=496&oldid=495] kind of linking is that once we changed our domain and links like that stopped working. If we keep it internal, the links will always work. Its up to you though. For the BG site you can revert back to the external links if you like. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 04:33, 1 July 2015 (PDT)

Damaskin: /* Setup of Bulgarian WikiIslam */

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	:Ok sounds good. I will send you the file by email. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 12:28, 19 May 2015 (PDT)		:Ok sounds good. I will send you the file by email. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 12:28, 19 May 2015 (PDT)
	I think I got all the redirects done. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 19:30, 29 June 2015 (PDT)		I think I got all the redirects done. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 19:30, 29 June 2015 (PDT)

			I left it for those days because I have no time, but thanks anyway. - Damaskin

Axius: /* Setup of Bulgarian WikiIslam */

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	:Ok sounds good. I will send you the file by email. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 12:28, 19 May 2015 (PDT)		:Ok sounds good. I will send you the file by email. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 12:28, 19 May 2015 (PDT)
			I think I got all the redirects done. --[[User:Axius\|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius\|talk]] <nowiki>\|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius\|contribs]])</span> 19:30, 29 June 2015 (PDT)